Comments on: Google's new product "stickiness" doesn't matter http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:31:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Prosumer News http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-245164 Prosumer News Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:24:17 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-245164 <strong>Interview of Google’s Rajat Mukherjee...</strong> Interview of Google’s Rajat Mukherjee Eric Enge: How do Topics feature into Google’s plans at this point? Rajat Mukherjee: The Topics features have a lot of power, and we are using these features as we go forward. Refinements are really ... Interview of Google's Rajat Mukherjee…

Interview of Google's Rajat Mukherjee

Eric Enge: How do Topics feature into Google's plans at this point?

Rajat Mukherjee: The Topics features have a lot of power, and we are using these features as we go forward. Refinements are really …

]]> By: Prosumer News http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-245163 Prosumer News Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:20:51 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-245163 <strong>Google’s new product “stickiness” doesn’t matter...</strong> rianjs.net Recently I read an article in Business Week about Google (”So Much Fanfare, So Few Hits”) and I found myself agreeing with the premise that Google certainly does release lots of new products and services ¡½ none of them as pop... Google's new product "stickiness" doesn't matter…

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Recently I read an article in Business Week about Google ("So Much Fanfare, So Few Hits") and I found myself agreeing with the premise that Google certainly does release lots of new products and services ¡½ none of them as pop…

]]> By: Let there be ‘Google’ « Nirupesh Joshi’s Blog http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-130877 Let there be ‘Google’ « Nirupesh Joshi’s Blog Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:02:05 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-130877 [...] Some argue that the entire line of products and services offered by Google have not been successful and only a few, found its way to the top of the charts. This is true, but what puzzles me right now is the fact that when someone says ‘Google’ to me, I can neither think of them as a Search company nor can I think of them as an Internet applications company. Look at the announcement on their official blog today, after all debuts they are stepping into Mobile technologies now, attempting to create an ‘open’ platform for Mobile applications development. The partners include Motorola, Qualcomm, HTC and T-Mobile. I am not a mobile technology expert but in my opinion, these players do not dominate the market. There are other big players like Nokia and Sony Ericsson that already work on Symbian. Will they also embrace the ‘Open Handset Alliance’? Time will tell. [...] [...] Some argue that the entire line of products and services offered by Google have not been successful and only a few, found its way to the top of the charts. This is true, but what puzzles me right now is the fact that when someone says 'Google' to me, I can neither think of them as a Search company nor can I think of them as an Internet applications company. Look at the announcement on their official blog today, after all debuts they are stepping into Mobile technologies now, attempting to create an 'open' platform for Mobile applications development. The partners include Motorola, Qualcomm, HTC and T-Mobile. I am not a mobile technology expert but in my opinion, these players do not dominate the market. There are other big players like Nokia and Sony Ericsson that already work on Symbian. Will they also embrace the 'Open Handset Alliance'? Time will tell. [...]

]]> By: Ontario http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-96629 Ontario Sat, 16 Jun 2007 07:41:04 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-96629 Google products do work well. Very well. Google products do work well. Very well.

]]> By: vichy http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-90165 vichy Wed, 09 May 2007 15:29:15 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-90165 "This is just not how engineers are. We’re more concerned with functionality, and doing it the best way in the fewest and cleanest amount of code. Google services and products just work, and work well." but it's still the best designroule fpr big success - "Form follows function!" This is the rule an this works best! "This is just not how engineers are. We’re more concerned with functionality, and doing it the best way in the fewest and cleanest amount of code. Google services and products just work, and work well."

but it's still the best designroule fpr big success - "Form follows function!"

This is the rule an this works best!

]]> By: ceaseoleo http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56707 ceaseoleo Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:09:47 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56707 The main problem with google is they are a bunch of phd or very smart engineers. They are not conditioned to make things look good ( just look at all there sites) and they are not conditioned to think ohhhh i wonder what flashy web 2.o application I can do , maybe if i make the news articles slide down in a news spy it will be better. This is just not how engineers are. We're more concerned with functionality, and doing it the best way in the fewest and cleanest amount of code. Google services and products just work, and work well. I think people want things on the page to move and spin and all kinds of crap thats not necessary (look at how well macs and osx are doing ... but thats for another post). Well this will all die down, and web 3.0 we will return to saneness, and functionality. The main problem with google is they are a bunch of phd or very smart engineers. They are not conditioned to make things look good ( just look at all there sites) and they are not conditioned to think ohhhh i wonder what flashy web 2.o application I can do , maybe if i make the news articles slide down in a news spy it will be better. This is just not how engineers are. We're more concerned with functionality, and doing it the best way in the fewest and cleanest amount of code. Google services and products just work, and work well. I think people want things on the page to move and spin and all kinds of crap thats not necessary (look at how well macs and osx are doing … but thats for another post). Well this will all die down, and web 3.0 we will return to saneness, and functionality.

]]> By: Droc http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56705 Droc Fri, 18 Aug 2006 13:21:35 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56705 Great post, particularly your point about low cost product development coming from the engineers. I use Google's personalized home page for my reader, gmail, calendar, you tube and flickr. I was wondering, however, does anyone have any thoughts about the effects of Dell shipping computers with Google software pre-installed? Personally, I think that kind of mass rollout will have a tremendous impact on extending Google's reach. Great post, particularly your point about low cost product development coming from the engineers.

I use Google's personalized home page for my reader, gmail, calendar, you tube and flickr.

I was wondering, however, does anyone have any thoughts about the effects of Dell shipping computers with Google software pre-installed?

Personally, I think that kind of mass rollout will have a tremendous impact on extending Google's reach.

]]> By: Max Smolev http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56595 Max Smolev Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:58:45 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56595 Most of the "not-so succeeding" projects are irrelevant to the regular user. What I am afraid of is people will start thinking that Google is not capable of anything new and great any more (after trying so many "so-so" services people usually stop trying alltogether). Which probably could put a dent in Google's desire to invent. Meanwhile it becomes more and more difficult to use primary Google service -- search engine. Search spam attacks are increasing and I, personally, run into many cases where searching returns no results at all. *sigh* Most of the "not-so succeeding" projects are irrelevant to the regular user. What I am afraid of is people will start thinking that Google is not capable of anything new and great any more (after trying so many "so-so" services people usually stop trying alltogether). Which probably could put a dent in Google's desire to invent.
Meanwhile it becomes more and more difficult to use primary Google service — search engine. Search spam attacks are increasing and I, personally, run into many cases where searching returns no results at all. *sigh*

]]> By: bigpicture http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56554 bigpicture Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:54:36 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56554 Just a couple of points about the Google secondary products. A lot of these are still in beta trial ware version, for feed back on further development. I see these products as "value added" to Google search. It will become increasingly difficult to stay ahead of the search engine market, but Google can distinguish themselves from the crowd by providing better "value added" such as the Gmail, Calendar, Google Earth, Spreadsheet etc. Keeps their customers coming back. Some of the products are still raw but have potential, especially if functionality is integrated. I know it keeps me coming back. Just a couple of points about the Google secondary products. A lot of these are still in beta trial ware version, for feed back on further development.

I see these products as "value added" to Google search. It will become increasingly difficult to stay ahead of the search engine market, but Google can distinguish themselves from the crowd by providing better "value added" such as the Gmail, Calendar, Google Earth, Spreadsheet etc. Keeps their customers coming back.

Some of the products are still raw but have potential, especially if functionality is integrated. I know it keeps me coming back.

]]> By: Jimi http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56537 Jimi Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:25:09 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56537 I think you miss the point. Nobody is arguing that the failure of most of their non-search products is harming the bottom line in any significant manner. The problem with their failures is that the Google stock price and analyst expectations have priced in significant growth in the non-search areas. Everytime they release a new product, it's hailed as a "____-killer" but they have not killed anybody. They dominate search and little else. And their position in search is maintained primarily through the loyalty of their users and their reputation. In reality, most of the major search engines are very similar in terms of their results these days. Hashim is dead on. Google was in a position to own the markets that are now led by upstarts like MySpace, YouTube and Digg. Google has basically been a non-player in the whole "Web 2.0" craze. The fact that it didn't even capitalize on a single one of the many new market opportunities makes one question the leadership, competence and organizational structure of the company now that it is monster-sized. It's very easy to espouse a lean, fast philosophy but it's much harder to execute that way when you're a gigantic company. Google is not divine. In fact it's starting to look rather human. Recent reports indicate that the rate of growth in Google's expenses has overtaken the rate of growth in their revenues. This is an ominous sign. I have also questioned the rationale behind many of their acquisitions. The recent purchase of biometrics firm Neven Vision is very curious and I don't see strong synergies with a lot of Google's recent acquisitions. Many people see the same randomness in Google's moves but think that Google is so genius that there must be some grand plan that only Google is aware of. Given their failure to deliver success in any other area outside of search and the fact that 95% of their revenues still come from a single source, I think it's more likely that we're simply looking at a one-trick pony that was in the right place at the right time with the right product. It's also worth noting Brin and Page's recent purchase of a 767 "party plane" apparently with company money, which smacks of a company that has become so wealthy so fast and lost all the principles and culture that made it so successful in the first place. I think you miss the point. Nobody is arguing that the failure of most of their non-search products is harming the bottom line in any significant manner. The problem with their failures is that the Google stock price and analyst expectations have priced in significant growth in the non-search areas. Everytime they release a new product, it's hailed as a "____-killer" but they have not killed anybody. They dominate search and little else. And their position in search is maintained primarily through the loyalty of their users and their reputation. In reality, most of the major search engines are very similar in terms of their results these days.

Hashim is dead on. Google was in a position to own the markets that are now led by upstarts like MySpace, YouTube and Digg. Google has basically been a non-player in the whole "Web 2.0" craze. The fact that it didn't even capitalize on a single one of the many new market opportunities makes one question the leadership, competence and organizational structure of the company now that it is monster-sized. It's very easy to espouse a lean, fast philosophy but it's much harder to execute that way when you're a gigantic company.

Google is not divine. In fact it's starting to look rather human. Recent reports indicate that the rate of growth in Google's expenses has overtaken the rate of growth in their revenues. This is an ominous sign. I have also questioned the rationale behind many of their acquisitions. The recent purchase of biometrics firm Neven Vision is very curious and I don't see strong synergies with a lot of Google's recent acquisitions. Many people see the same randomness in Google's moves but think that Google is so genius that there must be some grand plan that only Google is aware of. Given their failure to deliver success in any other area outside of search and the fact that 95% of their revenues still come from a single source, I think it's more likely that we're simply looking at a one-trick pony that was in the right place at the right time with the right product. It's also worth noting Brin and Page's recent purchase of a 767 "party plane" apparently with company money, which smacks of a company that has become so wealthy so fast and lost all the principles and culture that made it so successful in the first place.

]]> By: Rian http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56534 Rian Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:49:46 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56534 <em>Incidentally, welcome Slashdot readers. Akismet is a little overzealous when it comes to spam. As I must leave for work where there is no Internet access until 9pm EST, some comments might get flagged as spam. I will sort through them tonight and approve them all as soon as I get home. Thanks for your patience.</em> Incidentally, welcome Slashdot readers. Akismet is a little overzealous when it comes to spam. As I must leave for work where there is no Internet access until 9pm EST, some comments might get flagged as spam. I will sort through them tonight and approve them all as soon as I get home.

Thanks for your patience.

]]> By: Rian http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56533 Rian Thu, 17 Aug 2006 17:48:25 +0000 http://rianjs.net/2006/08/google-product-traction/#comment-56533 Yes Orkut's huge in Brazil. And that's the only place it's huge. Compared to Facebook and MySpace and LiveJournal and the other social networking sites, Orkut's insignificant. MySpace dominates social networking more than Google search dominates web searching. Yes Orkut's huge in Brazil. And that's the only place it's huge. Compared to Facebook and MySpace and LiveJournal and the other social networking sites, Orkut's insignificant.

MySpace dominates social networking more than Google search dominates web searching.

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