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Please continue to write “Toprol” NOT “metoprolol succinate”

In the last couple of weeks, I’ve seen quite a few errors since Toprol XL has gone generic. Usually it’s because prescribers are writing “Metoprolol Succ Xmg” (Or some repetitive bastardization thereof compliments of your friendly EMR which formats prescriptions in bizarre ways.)

Most of the people doing data entry are not pharmacists. They are technicians. And when they see “metoprolol” they immediately pick generic Lopressor, because that is what they are accustomed to. They don’t know that there’s a difference between succinate and tartrate, and if they do know there’s a difference, they don’t know what it means. Most of the time, if this error is made, it is caught by the checking pharmacist. But due to the sheer volume of Toprol scripts dispensed every day, some still slip through the cracks.

I know it’s fun to start writing generic names when generics become available. When Zestril went generic, you all started writing lisinopril. Same for gabapentin and every other generic drug on the planet, I’m sure.

But please don’t do this with Toprol. We’re all on the same team, here, and the goal is to minimize errors regardless of who is technically at fault. And I can guarantee that it will minimize prescribing errors when those refill requests start coming in, and your office staff start leaving incorrect or incomplete voicemails, because they got it wrong, too. ;)

Thank-you.

“Tastes like happy!”

Remember candy cigarettes? Those sticks of gum done up to look like smokes with a red tip, and the puff of some sort of powder when you blew through it once?

Man those used to make me want to smoke so badly when I was a kid. No joking, either. I couldn’t wait to be old enough to puff on a “real” smoke like all the kids that I thought were cool.

Then the candy cigarettes all but disappeared — I stopped seeing them in stores, and I assumed that they were outlawed as part of the ongoing war against cigarette advertising. But I guess I was just looking in the wrong places. This past weekend I went to an ice cream shop done up in 1950s style with some friends. Lo and behold! Candy cigarettes! “WTF?” I said. “I thought these things were taken off the market!” I haven’t been this excited about candy since my Valium necklace.

king candy cigarettes

(They also had some big-league chew, which I’ve not seen in a while, either. Big league chew never got me interested in dip, for what that’s worth.)

Unfortunately, I didn’t have any cash on me, so I couldn’t buy ’em, but I did open the pack, and they looked decidedly less appetizing than they used to. Amazing what time and experience will do…

For nostalgia’s sake, you can still get candy cigarettes pretty easily. Amazon will happily sell you a wide variety, for example, and they’ve also got Big League Chew. (Actually, I think the only things Amazon doesn’t sell are cars and houses, but that’s what eBay is for.)

Somewhat off-topic: this page is an interesting run-down of the various candy cigarettes over the years and in various parts of the world. I think the type I used to chew as a kid were mostly Mustangs — since re-branded to “Stallions” because RJ Reynolds was too short-sighted to recognize that another company was doing their marketing for them.

In any case, my mom used to be deathly afraid of me getting candy cigarettes for fear that it would lead me to smoking. So I used to have to do it discreetly. I think that added to the allure of both candy cigarettes and smoking in general.

The title of this blog post comes from Family Guy, Season 3, Episode 3 from Baby Smokes a Lot: “Hehe! Tastes like happy!” — which I would upload to share because it’s hilarious and oh so wrong… if only I could find an easy way to export Ogg Media Video files to a more web-friendly format. Argh!

[tags]Candy cigarettes, big league chew, nostalgia[/tags]

What does “2 qd” actually mean?

Last night I had a prescription that said “2 qd” — it was a phoned-in prescription. I filled it, thinking nothing of it, and low and behold I see it has been edited to some different directions. “WTF?” I say to myself, pulling out the hard copy. Nope, it definitely says “Π qd” (That’s as close to a Unicode approximation to the symbol for 2 that I can come up with.)

“Um, so why did you change this?” I ask, handing the QA pharmacist the hard copy and the edited label.

“Because it was wrong,” she says.

“No, it wasn’t,” I say, handing over the script written by her hand. “2 qd means ‘2 tablets once daily’.”

“You don’t know that,” she says. “What if the doctor means take 1 tablet in the morning and 1 tablet 4 hours later, or 1 tablet twice a day?”

“Well then the doctor should write that.”

“Sometimes they don’t.”

“I see. *pause* I was always taught that 2 qd means ‘2 tablets once daily’ and if the doctor wants twice daily dosing, the script should say ‘BID’ otherwise the doctor — not the pharmacist — has made a mistake. And that 2 qd absolutely means 2 tablets/capsules/whatever once daily, with no ambiguity.”

“Well, I like to put ‘Take 2 tablets every day as directed.'”

We argued a bit after that, but the trouble with sticking “as directed” on there is a nifty way of a pharmacist doing a little CYA, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. The script technically doesn’t say it, and generally speaking, the patient hasn’t been “directed” in how to do anything, so it’s actually not correct to do that. What if the script is for meloxicam or nabumetone?

To aid in the discussion, here’s a brief Latin recap for those that have forgotten it, or never learned what the abbreviations actually meant in the first place. Unfortunately, they’re not much help, either:

  • q: quaque: “every”
  • qd: quaque die: “every day” which is generally understood to be “once a day” or “once daily”
  • qX°: every X hours
  • po: per os: “by mouth”
  • od/os/ou: oculus dexter (“right eye”); oculus sinister (“left eye”); oculus uterque (“both eyes”)

And so on.

For me, I will continue to write “Take 2 tablets once daily” when I see “2 qd”. But to others, that means something different, and I think it’s important that prescribers know that that it means something different to each pharmacist. I mentioned this phenomenon in my Chantix prescribing tutorial, and it applies here as well. There is indeed ambiguity, where there should ideally be none.

And it so happens that this presents the perfect opportunity to test out my new polling toy. So I’ve included 2(!) polls for finer-grained results. We’ll pretend we’re dealing with tablets for the sake of simplicity. If you are not in the medical field, please vote “Other medical personnel”. The poll will open a new window for each poll which is annoying, but there doesn’t seem to be a way around this. And feel free to elaborate in the comments — I really had no idea until yesterday that this was something not everyone agreed on.

Alcohol and Flagyl = disulfiram rxn? Where’re the data, dood?!

I think probably the first “real” counseling point any pharmacy student learns is “Don’t drink alcohol with Flagyl!” If it’s not the first thing, it’s easily the second or third. In fact, I’ve seen this hand-written on prescription labels for added emphasis, even though the auxiliary labels that print out already say it. You don’t often see “Take with food” hand-written, even though it would probably provide more real-world benefit to the patient than the standard “Don’t drink alcohol” mantra.

“Heresy!” you shout. Well, hear me out…

You see, there’s almost no data to support the assertion that alcohol and metronidazole combine to create a disulfiram-like reaction. It’s crazy, I know. How could this age-old advice be wrong? The reason this is drilled into pharmacy and med students’ heads is because the conventional wisdom is old. It got here because “everyone knows” that ethanol + metronidazole = A Bad Time. Even though there’s no meaningful evidence to support this conclusion.

Regular readers know my distaste (hah!) for metronidazole. In fact, I missed out on my best friend’s 21st birthday drunkfestcelebration because of it. As it turns out, I missed out for naught. Alas.

Exhibit A is a meta-analysis of published anecdotes, “Do Ethanol and Metronidazole Interact to Produce a Disulfiram-Like Reaction” published in The Annals of Pharmacotherapy. Exhibit B is a double-blind, placebo-controlled study out of Finland, also published in TAOP entitled “Lack of Disulfiram-Like Reaction with Metronidazole and Ethanol” which is a bit more science-y and a little less meta-analysis-y.

This is a long entry, so here’s a ToC.

  1. Bits and bobs from Exhibit A
  2. Bits and bobs from Exhibit B
  3. Final thoughts

Continue reading Alcohol and Flagyl = disulfiram rxn? Where’re the data, dood?!

Suckin’ on the ol’ sewer pipe

This post was originally going to entitled Metronidazole: a haiku. Alas, I suck at writing haikus. Yes, dear reader, there is more to a good haiku than 17 syllables. By the way, did you ever marvel at the irony of learning haiku in an English class? I always did, but my teachers were always more interested in teaching it than arguing about it. I was always of the mind that arguing > haiku, but they always disagreed.

That’s probably they were English teachers in the first place.

Oh, right. This is a pharmacy blog, so back to pharmacy. Specifically to metronidazole AKA Flagyl AKA Shai’tan, AKA Lucifer, the Morning Star himself.

The gods have seen fit to curse me several times throughout my life with the scourge that is metronidazole. I take it (along with a fluouroquinolone) when my Crohn’s flares up, and it works well. Thus far, I have successfully avoided taking any immunomodulators or steroids. But metronidazole has some totally rad side effects. And by “totally rad” I mean “the worst ever.”

First is the taste. It comes in three parts. The first is that awesome nastiness that’ll make you gag as soon as it hits your tongue if you’re not ready for it. Then there’s the lingering powdery residue that no amount of food or orange juice can seem to scrub away. The third part is the full-blown taste perversion that comes a day or so later: that dull throb that wears you down slowly instead of the sharp pain that makes you gasp. That taste that makes you feel as though you’re sucking on a sewer pipe while your gums bleed profusely into the fetid mess each and every time you take a breath.

Bottoms up, friend. It’s only day 2 of 10.

Then there’s the smell perversion, where everything that’s good and sweet in this world turns to ash and dust. Coffee. Pineapple. Chocolate. Forget about sticking your nose near any of it. Then there’s the urine which looks to be made of equal parts blood and urine. Which itself smells like liquid death. (Asparagus has got nothing on Flagyl-piss.) You look in the toilet afterwards and expect to see bits of protein next time as your kidney slowly liquefies itself.

Some say I should count myself fortunate that I don’t seem to experience any psych side effects like depression or nightmares. But I think I’d take nightmares over constant sewer mouth.

Tomorrow marks the last day of a ten day course of this shit, and it can’t come soon enough. The side effects seem to intensify with each round. Or is it that I become less patient? Thankfully Christmas only seems to come once a year so far. The only thing that helps is ice cream. Lots and lots of ice cream so I can freeze my mouth and get ten blessed minutes of nothing.

I think if I had mortal enemies, I’d provide them with a lifetime supply of metronidazole, 500mg TID to be taken with only a swallow of water each time.

If you enjoyed this, or have taken Flagyl/metronidazole in the past, you may enjoy this entry about the (lack of) alcohol+Flagyl reaction.

Conception for HIV+ couples

I’ve idly wondered from time to time how serodiscordant couples maintained a relationship, and how they have children. You see them at the pharmacy, and you know one of them is HIV+ and the other is not, so it does get you thinking. Especially when they have kids.

Wonder no more. Medscape and Viread to the rescue!

All of the couples in the study wanted to have children; the men were already taking antiretrovirals that suppressed their serum HIV below the detectable level.

To further reduce the risk of infection in the female partners, the researchers gave each of them two doses of tenofovir, one to be taken 36 hours before intercourse and another 12 hours before.

After each of the couples had made three attempts, 11 of the 21 couples had conceived, Dr. Vernazza said, and after 10 attempts, 15 were pregnant. These are substantially higher rates than might be expected with artificial reproduction, Vernazza said.

All the women in the study tested negative for HIV, 3 months after the last exposure, the researchers report. “The risk of transmission in a couple with a fully treated male partner is low and can further be reduced by timed intercourse and a short pre-exposure prophylaxis with tenofovir,” Dr. Vernazza said.

[…]

“Persuasion of the patients might sometimes be a problem, in which case we still offer them in vitro fertilization (with sperm washing),” he said. “But in general, an hour to explain all the data is enough.”

An hour, eh? I wonder if there’s a billing code for that?

[tags]HIV, AIDS, conception, tenofovir, Viread[/tags]

The “furry harbinger of death”

This is Oscar.

Oscar The Death Cat

Oscar predicts — with 100% accuracy so far — when people are going to die. The following excerpt is from the NEJM essay mentioned in the AP article, for those who don’t have access.

Oscar takes no notice of the woman and leaps up onto the bed. He surveys Mrs. T. She is clearly in the terminal phase of illness, and her breathing is labored. Oscar’s examination is interrupted by a nurse, who walks in to ask the daughter whether Mrs. T. is uncomfortable and needs more morphine. The daughter shakes her head, and the nurse retreats. Oscar returns to his work. He sniffs the air, gives Mrs. T. one final look, then jumps off the bed and quickly leaves the room. Not today.

Making his way back up the hallway, Oscar arrives at Room 313. The door is open, and he proceeds inside. Mrs. K. is resting peacefully in her bed, her breathing steady but shallow. She is surrounded by photographs of her grandchildren and one from her wedding day. Despite these keepsakes, she is alone. Oscar jumps onto her bed and again sniffs the air. He pauses to consider the situation, and then turns around twice before curling up beside Mrs. K.

One hour passes. Oscar waits. A nurse walks into the room to check on her patient. She pauses to note Oscar’s presence. Concerned, she hurriedly leaves the room and returns to her desk. She grabs Mrs. K.’s chart off the medical-records rack and begins to make phone calls.

Within a half hour the family starts to arrive. Chairs are brought into the room, where the relatives begin their vigil. The priest is called to deliver last rites. And still, Oscar has not budged, instead purring and gently nuzzling Mrs. K. A young grandson asks his mother, “What is the cat doing here?” The mother, fighting back tears, tells him, “He is here to help Grandma get to heaven.” Thirty minutes later, Mrs. K. takes her last earthly breath. With this, Oscar sits up, looks around, then departs the room so quietly that the grieving family barely notices.

I think if I were dying, it might be nice to have an animal next to me. Even if I wasn’t aware of it. Oscar has a plaque dedicated to him, as well, “For his compassionate hospice care, this plaque is awarded to Oscar the Cat.”

Note: Since he was adopted by staff members as a kitten, Oscar the Cat has had an uncanny ability to predict when residents are about to die. Thus far, he has presided over the deaths of more than 25 residents on the third floor of Steere House Nursing and Rehabilitation Center in Providence, Rhode Island. His mere presence at the bedside is viewed by physicians and nursing home staff as an almost absolute indicator of impending death, allowing staff members to adequately notify families. Oscar has also provided companionship to those who would otherwise have died alone. For his work, he is highly regarded by the physicians and staff at Steere House and by the families of the residents whom he serves.

That’s pretty amazing.

And it seems that I Can Has Cheezburger? has made a LOLCAT out of him.

“Hello, my boyfriend is a heroin addict”

“Hello, may I help you?”

“Hello… my boyfriend is a heroin addict.”

Not exactly the sort of greeting one expects after picking up the telephone.

“OK.”

“Yeah, I was wondering if you could sell him like one needle. I’m worried about him and I don’t want him to get AIDS or something like that.”

“Um, well, we can’t sell you just one syringe. They come in packs of 10. I don’t have any way of selling you just one.”

“Oh. Really.”

“Yeah, I’m sorry.”

“Well, how much are they?”

“They’re about $2.50 or so for ten.”

“Oh. He can’t afford that.” At this point I’m thinking WHAT THE HELL? You can buy HEROIN but you can’t afford $2.50 for some freakin’ syringes?!?! Think of it as an investment in the future, FFS!

“Yeah. I’m sorry. I wish I could help you.” Where help doesn’t necessarily mean “Get you a needle so your SO can shoot up.”

“Well… Do you know where I can get him one?”

“Um, you could try a hospital. Maybe they can give you one.”

“Oh!” she says brightly. “I’ll try that. Thanks!”

*click*

It seems that Massachusetts does not have a clean needle program, and I’m fairly certain that NH doesn’t either, since hypodermic needles require a prescription in that state. I guess she really was SOL. I wonder what happened.

Regular readers already know my feelings about selling needles OTC.

I made a mistake the other day

While working in an affluent town the other day — not my normal pharmacy stomping grounds — I was in a pretty good mood. When I’m happy, I get talkative, particularly if I’m somewhat caffeinated, which I was.

Anyway, I rang someone out. Their script was for Imitrex. Since I had done the whole thing from start to finish, I looked at her profile like I always do. (Contrary to popular belief, filling a prescription is NOT a passive activity.) 9x50mg tablets about once every two months. Less than your normal Imitrex user.

She was a nice woman, and (what I assume was) her SO seemed pretty cool, so we were chatting at the register. For some reason, I saw fit to tell this woman that if you take enough Imitrex, your blood will turn green, as it is a bisphosphonate. Useless trivia that I thought was pretty cool. (Cyanosis brought on by sulfhemoglobinemia, where a sulfur atom takes the place of a carbon atom in normal hemoglobin. How green? I don’t know, because I’ve never seen it — though I’d really like to find a picture.)

As soon as I told her, I saw fear come in her eyes, and I knew I had made a mistake. I assured her that this would never happen to her, and that you’d have to be taking huge doses for a long time, but I could see it didn’t matter. The damage was done.

Next time I’ll just keep my mouth shut about what I think is awesome, and useless. I wince every time I think about the conversation. Why did I have to mention this? Why? It served no purpose.

Errors in judgment can be just as damaging as a “technical” error like dispensing the wrong drug.